Shroud of Silent Mist

Frequently Asked Questions

Adversaries

• Against Russia 2: a damaged Explorer with a health bonus ends the turn Shroud of Silent Mists' lands. It should be destroyed when the health bonus wears off - is it saved?
  No. It's not in the context of an action, so Russia 2 doesn't apply.

  (This is a provisional answer - if further cases like this suggest that "Effects expire" needs to be an action, it could conceivably change, but that seems the less likely case.)
  Tags: Actions, Action Modifiers, Shroud of Silent Mist, Well-Prepared Explorers, 1 more...

Effect Rules

• What exactly does "healing damage" refer to for Unquenchable Flames and Shroud of Silent Mist's *Slow and Silent Death*?
  Damage healing during Time Passes (and any future effects that use the word "heal").
  

  It does not affect damage being cleared when an Invader or Dahan is saved from destruction.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Saved From Destruction, Damage, Time Passes, Birds Cry Warning, 5 more...

General Play

• If one of Shroud of Silent Mists lands is targeted with Vengeance of the Dead and Invaders have their Health boosted by an Event, when damaged Invaders die at the end of the turn when the health boost wears off, do you get the benefit of Vengeance of the Dead?
  No.

  The effect of Vengeance of the Dead (extra Damage when Towns/Cities are Destroyed) and the Health boost wear off at the same time in Time Passes, so you don't get the extra Damage. (Health bonuses also wear off during Time Passes, so you need Shroud of Silent Mists to prevent the healing for the Invaders to actually die.)

  Similar comments apply to other effects that wear off at the end of the turn.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Time Passes, Weave Together the Fabric of Place, Vengeance of the Dead, Infinite Vitality, 3 more...
• If you skip using the text effects of a Power *(p. 17 core rules)*, are you still considered to have targeted / used that Power? (For, eg, Shroud of Silent Mist.)
  No, if you target a Power you must actually attempt to perform its text effects. (It need not actually have any game effect.)

  The core rules would be better phrased as "you may forego using a Power".
  Tags: Targeting, Shroud of Silent Mist, Scream Disease Into the Wind, Blitz, 1 more...

Power Cards

• In Veil the Night's Hunt, if there are fewer Invaders than Dahan, how much damage is done?
  If there are fewer Invaders than Dahan, each Invader takes 1 damage and the remaining damage is wasted.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Veil the Night's Hunt, Suffocating Shroud (Shroud of Silent Mists), The Fog Closes In (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, 0 more...
• With Entwined Power, can Shroud of Silent Mist Gather another Spirit's Presence?
  Yes. When Shroud of Silent Mist targets a Power (which its Presence-Gather is part of) it treats the other Spirit's Presence as also being its Presence.

  If the effects of the special rule didn't have anything to do with targeting the Power, it might be more ambiguous (since Entwined Power is only supposed to affect targeting), but Mists Shift and Flow is very explicit that it can be used to target Powers.
  Tags: Targeting, Move, Shroud of Silent Mist, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), 2 more...
• How do Badlands / Flame's Fury work with Veil the Night's Hunt? How about Trickster's innate "Why Don't You and Them Fight"? Or (other Power that specifies unusual conditions on what can be damaged)?
  For Veil the Night's Hunt, deal 1 bonus Damage to an Invader that's already taking Damage. (You can't use it to deal damage to more Invaders than there are Dahan in the land.) For Let's You and Them Fight, damage boosts can only apply to the Dahan and Invader taking damage from each other.

  Badlands and Flame's Fury respect limits on "What could this Power have damaged?" This may include caps on the number of Invaders being Damaged, or specification of exactly which Invader(s) are to be damaged.

  (For a few more examples of the same basic principle, you can take a look at the Horizons FAQ on boosting damage.)
  Tags: Badlands, Veil the Night's Hunt, Slave Rebellion, Why Don't You and Them Fight (Grinning Trickster Stirs Up Trouble), 12 more...

Range and Targeting

• Can you target a power on a land where you know it won't do anything? For instance, target a land without Explorers with a "Push 1 Explorer" Power?
  Yes. You can target a power on any land, as long as it satisfies the targeting and range restrictions. ("Do as much as you can" only refers to resolving a Power, not how you use it in the first place.)

  Obvious reasons you might want to do this include Gathering Presence (if you're Shroud of Silent Mist) or placing Disease (if Scream Disease Into the Wind has been played on you). There are other less-likely cases too.
  Tags: Targeting, Scream Disease Into the Wind, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, 1 more...

Spirit Phase

• Can you use a Presence track action in the middle of Growth?
  Yes, so long it's in between actions (or before them). Generally, each icon is one Action(†).
  

  For instance, Downpour Drenches the World could choose its second growth option (which has 2 "Add a Presence" icons), add 1 Presence to uncover a "Move Presence 1" space, use the Move 1 to shift a Presence, then place a second Presence from the new position. Or Many Minds Move as One could gain Energy with its 3rd Growth option, then use it to gain a Power Card before deciding where to place Presence.

  (†) = With an exception for icons that explicitly indicate "do this thing multiple times", like Fractured Days' "xN"s or Ocean's "....to/from EACH Ocean".
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Growth, Presence track, Actions, Downpour Drenches the World, 2 more...

Spirits and Innate Powers

• How does Mists Shift and Flow interact with a Power targeting two lands?
  You get to move 1 Presence for each of the two target lands. ("When targeting a land" applies twice.)

  You don't check whether the targets are legal (for Range) until after both Presence have moved, so you could use the Presence movement to make a Sacred Site in a land where you'd had no Presence.
  Tags: Targeting, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, Fire and Flood, 0 more...
• Can a Spirit like Finder get its Presence in an in-play Ocean using "Move 1 Presence" on a growth track?
  No, because that is not a Power or Blight.

  The same applies to Presence placement during Growth or Growth options allowing movement.

  You can use Mists Shift and Flow to move Presence into the Ocean, as that happens as part of the targeting of a Power.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Growth, Move, Finder of Paths Unseen, Ocean's Hungry Grasp, 8 more...
• Can Mists Shift and Flow let you meet origin land targeting requirements? (E.g., targeting from a Jungle, or from a Sacred Site)
  Yes. (JE, p. 31)
  Tags: Targeting, Sacred Sites, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, 0 more...
• Does Mists Shift and Flow make Range 0 powers effectively Range 1?
  You can move Presence to satisfy the targeting requirement, so effectively yes, if you move into the target land.

  But note you cannot move your last Presence out of the target land for a Range 0 Power.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Targeting, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist