Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist)

Frequently Asked Questions

General Play

• How does "resolve powers in the order they're written" work for things like "If you have (elements), +1 Range"?
  Internal modifiers like this – a Power changing its own Speed, Range, or other targeting – are looked at when they're relevant (like during targeting), not during normal Power resolution. This is an exception to "do things strictly in order once using the Power".

  This is also the case for Powers like The Jungle Hungers, where a threshold modifies the instructions earlier in the Power. Technically, every use of "Instead..." in an innate power works this way; it's pretty simple for human minds to understand the intent, but the formal specification is messier.

  Also related: A Power that is 100% internal modifiers doesn't do anything, so can't be targeted/used for things like Scream Disease Into the Wind..
  Tags: Resolving Powers, Range Boosts, Speed (Fast/Slow), Targeting, 6 more...
• If you skip using the text effects of a Power *(p. 17 core rules)*, are you still considered to have targeted / used that Power? (For, eg, Shroud of Silent Mist.)
  No, if you target a Power you must actually attempt to perform its text effects. (It need not actually have any game effect.)

  The core rules would be better phrased as "you may forego using a Power".
  Tags: Targeting, Shroud of Silent Mist, Scream Disease Into the Wind, Blitz, 1 more...

Power Cards

• With Entwined Power, can Shroud of Silent Mist Gather another Spirit's Presence?
  Yes. When Shroud of Silent Mist targets a Power (which its Presence-Gather is part of) it treats the other Spirit's Presence as also being its Presence.

  If the effects of the special rule didn't have anything to do with targeting the Power, it might be more ambiguous (since Entwined Power is only supposed to affect targeting), but Mists Shift and Flow is very explicit that it can be used to target Powers.
  Tags: Targeting, Move, Shroud of Silent Mist, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), 2 more...
• When exactly do you have to pay a "cost to use" on a Power Card?
  Before targeting it - "using" / "resolving" a Power includes choosing a target land and verifying that it's legal.

  This can be relevant for cards like Scream Disease Into the Wind, which set up a triggered action after a Power is used on a land.
  Tags: Cost To Use, Triggered Actions, Scream Disease Into the Wind, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), 4 more...

Range and Targeting

• Can you target a power on a land where you know it won't do anything? For instance, target a land without Explorers with a "Push 1 Explorer" Power?
  Yes. You can target a power on any land, as long as it satisfies the targeting and range restrictions. ("Do as much as you can" only refers to resolving a Power, not how you use it in the first place.)

  Obvious reasons you might want to do this include Gathering Presence (if you're Shroud of Silent Mist) or placing Disease (if Scream Disease Into the Wind has been played on you). There are other less-likely cases too.
  Tags: Targeting, Scream Disease Into the Wind, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, 1 more...

Spirits and Innate Powers

• Does Mists Shift and Flow make Range 0 powers effectively Range 1?
  You can move Presence to satisfy the targeting requirement, so effectively yes, if you move into the target land.

  But note you cannot move your last Presence out of the target land for a Range 0 Power.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Targeting, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist
• Can a Spirit like Finder get its Presence in an in-play Ocean using "Move 1 Presence" on a growth track?
  No, because that is not a Power or Blight.

  The same applies to Presence placement during Growth or Growth options allowing movement.

  You can use Mists Shift and Flow to move Presence into the Ocean, as that happens as part of the targeting of a Power.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Growth, Move, Finder of Paths Unseen, Ocean's Hungry Grasp, 8 more...
• Can Mists Shift and Flow let you meet origin land targeting requirements? (E.g., targeting from a Jungle, or from a Sacred Site)
  Yes. (JE, p. 31)
  Tags: Targeting, Sacred Sites, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, 0 more...
• If all you can do with an innate power is change its Speed or Range (eg: either of Thunderspeaker's innates with 4 Air only), is that enough to target and use the Power?
  No, a power needs to have the potential to do something (not just modify its own attributes) in order to be targeted or used.

  This is usually irrelevant, but can occasionally be important (for, e.g., Scream Disease Into the Wind, or other "after using a power on a land..." effects.)

  It does not need to actually do something, as long as it has an instruction that could in theory modify the game state. Setting up a triggered action for the current Power only (eg: Lure's first innate) doesn't count, either; it's effectively an internal modifier as well, despite using a trigger for timing.
  Tags: Targeting, Resolving Powers, Range Boosts, Range, 4 more...
• How does Mists Shift and Flow interact with a Power targeting two lands?
  You get to move 1 Presence for each of the two target lands. ("When targeting a land" applies twice.)

  You don't check whether the targets are legal (for Range) until after both Presence have moved, so you could use the Presence movement to make a Sacred Site in a land where you'd had no Presence.
  Tags: Targeting, Mists Shift and Flow (Shroud of Silent Mist), Shroud of Silent Mist, Fire and Flood, 0 more...