Powers Long Forgotten

Frequently Asked Questions

Adversaries

• When playing with against France, what happens to Towns that end up somewhere other than on the island (e.g., on the Great River panel)?
  They go back into the pool of available Towns for France's loss condition, like if they were removed/destroyed. If the Towns would be used for tracking elsewhere, track that thing with another component. (e.g., swap them for 2 Explorers on the panel for Ocean's Hungry Grasp or use Scenario Markers to represent Towns that escaped in the Great River scenario.)

  The intent of France's Town pool is to track how many Towns are on the island; it's just considerably easier to do this with a limited Town pool than by counting the number on the board every time one gets added. In cases where the Towns permanently leave play, it's appropriate to return them to the supply to keep that count correct, even if they'd otherwise be removed from the game entirely (e.g., by the leather sack in Powers Long Forgotten).
  Tags: The Great River, Kingdom of France, Ocean In Play (Ocean's Hungry Grasp), Ocean's Hungry Grasp, 1 more...

Aspects

• When the Dark Fire Aspect is playing a Scenario that cares about the Elements of cards you own, can it count Fire as Moon and vice versa?
  Yes. Though the Aspect only explicitly refers to Elements in play and to choice Events, it's also intended to work with scenarios like Rituals of the Destroying Flame and Elemental Invocation.
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Definitions

• When counting how many Invaders are in a land, are you counting pieces? Or do Towns count as 2 and Cities as 3?
  You're counting pieces.

  "Invader" in the Glossary is defined as "A City, Town, or Explorer", so a land with three Towns and a City has four Invaders in it.

  (A few effects instead key off of "N Health worth of Invaders", and in those cases Towns and Cities generally count for 2 and 3, respectively.)

  Similarly if checking if Dahan "outnumber" Invaders, you are counting physical pieces.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Invaders, Health, Town, City, 11 more...

Effect Rules

• If an effect prevents a piece from being damaged or destroyed, does that also prevent the piece from being removed or replaced?
  No and no. While "destroying," "removing," and "replacing" all result in a component being taken off the island, they're mutually exclusive effects.

  Similarly, a piece that can't be removed can still be destroyed or replaced.

  A small number of effects separately protect against more than one of Destroy, Remove, and Replace:

  • "Stubborn Solidity," a Unique Power of Stone's Unyielding Defiance, prevents Dahan from being changed in any way.
  • "Fortify Heart and Hearth," a Special Rule of Hearth-Vigil, explicitly prevents Dahan from being destroyed or replaced by Events. (It doesn't prevent them from being removed, but no such Events exist as of the release of Nature Incarnate.)
  • "Thwarting the Sneaky Thieves," a rule in the Despicable Theft scenario, explicitly prevents Thieves from being destroyed, removed, or replaced in certain circumstances.
    Tags: Destroy, Remove, Replace, Saved From Destruction, 28 more...

Scenarios

• In Powers Long Forgotten, how long do the effects of a token discovered by the Spirits or Invaders last for?
  Unless otherwise specified, the effects last for the rest of the game.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Powers Long Forgotten
• When playing with an extra board, do any Scenarios need adjusting?
  Yes, a number of previously-printed Scenarios need to change "per player" to "per board":

  • Powers Long Forgotten: Make the "per player" setup instructions "per board" instead. (So you have enough tokens for all the boards, if playing on balanced. )
  • Blitz - Setup - "an additional Blight per player" should be "per board". Rule Changes - "1 less Blight per player" should be "per board".
  • Second Wave - After the First Game - the "per player" measurements should be "per board" (though the tokens saved do not need to be exactly 1 per board - eg, in a 2p, 3-board game, you could save 3 Beasts across the whole island, not limited to precisely 1 per board). Second Game Setup - "2 Blight per player" should be "2 Blight per board".
  • The Great River - Additional Loss Conditions - the per-player measurement should be per-board (but you can't just substitute "per board" because that implies it matters which board they escape from, so something like "If more than (3 x # of boards) Towns escape...")
  • Ward the Shores - Setup Changes - "4 Markers per player" should be "4 Markers per board"

  Note: an extra board may synergize very painfully with some Scenarios - most notably those which involve controlling / affecting territory, like The Great River, Despicable Theft, Ward the Shores and perhaps Powers Long Forgotten. If you want to avoid the extra Difficulty boost caused by this, you can opt to have some or all of the Scenario effects skip one board. (eg: The Great River could skip just Population Spills Across the River on one board, or all Rule Changes.) This will, of course, dilute the feel of the Scenario a bit.
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• For benefit #2 in Powers Long Forgotten, does "shifting" Presence count as moving it?
  No. (Nor does it count as repositioning it.) You may physically put the Presence in a different land, but it doesn't trigger anything that cares about moving or adding pieces, because metaphysically it hasn't moved. Nor does it check restrictions on movement, for similar reasons.

  The idea is that Presence in one Sands is in any Sands the Spirit wants... but if you try to phrase it that way a a zillion questions and edge-cases arise, so it's much cleaner/more predictable to phrase it as "you can put the Presence into another Sands but it's not a move". (Thematically, it doesn't represent movement, but the Spirit acting through its Presence in a different place.)
  Tags: Move, Repositioning Presence, Powers Long Forgotten
• With Powers Long Forgotten, when do you check whether a land is searched? Can a land be searched in the middle of a Power?
  Yes, since the scenario says "whenever". For instance, if Call to Migrate gathers 3 Dahan to land A, then pushes the 3 Dahan to land B, both lands A and B are searched.

  The Invaders will similarly search in the middle of an action.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Powers Long Forgotten
• If the Invaders get Powers Long Forgotten benefit #2, can they build a City in an empty Sands?
  Yes, if there are more Towns among all Sands than Cities.

  All the Invaders are treated as being in the same place for Build (and Explore), so they will often Build in empty Sands, and may well build a City there. Note that each Build is a separate action, so a City built in one Sands could cause a Town to be built in the next one (by changing the answer to "are there more Towns than Cities?").

  (Remember you can evaluate lands for Invader actions in whatever order you want.)
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• What are the "spirit tokens" in power 7 of Powers Long Forgotten?
  Any of the cardboard tokens that help spirits, currently Beasts, Wilds, Disease, Strife, and Badlands.

  If specific Spirits/Aspects are in the game, this also includes Deeps, Quakes, and Vitality.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Spirit tokens, Powers Long Forgotten, Fragments of Yesteryear
• What is prevented by the Invader benefit #8 of Powers Long Forgotten?
  The land cannot be selected as a target for Powers (Cards or Innate). There are no other restrictions.

  For instance, you could target an adjacent land and Gather Invaders there, or you could place Presence there as part of Growth. However, you cannot use a "Repeat this on an adjacent land" threshold to target the land, since that's still targeting the land with a Power even if it's not using the normal Range and Target requirements.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Powers Long Forgotten, Locus Aspect (Serpent Slumbering Beneath the Island), The Land Thrashes in Furious Pain, Sweep into the Sea, 2 more...
• When are Scenario Markers / Element Markers considered pieces?
  Nearly anytime they're placed on the board. The only exception is if they're purely a visual reminder, like in The Great River, or if used to mark Inner Lands for Guard The Isle's Heart. (JE p. 35, "Piece")

  This might be revisited if future content results in weird situations, as some of the cases are kind of borderline (eg: Rituals of the Destroying Flame), but for now the simplicity of "always" wins out.

  Element Markers placed on the board for Elemental Invocation are not considered "pieces" - the first printings of Jagged Earth considered them as pieces that were basically non-interactable (since they're not in any land); it's cleaner to just not count them as pieces at all.
  Tags: Element markers, Pieces, Changed rulings, Despicable Theft, 9 more...

Spirits and Innate Powers

• Does Grinning Trickster's rightmost Growth Option just use the Card Plays revealed on the Presence Track, or does it include modifiers (e.g., "Back Against the Wall," or Invader benefit 4 in Powers Long Forgotten)?
  The printed number on the Plays track. In general, effects that scale via the Energy/Plays/Elements on Presence tracks use the printed numbers rather than the amount of Energy, Plays, or Elements actually usable during a given Spirit Phase, whether or not they explicitly say so.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Growth, Elements, Grinning Trickster Stirs Up Trouble, Back Against the Wall, 11 more...