Fathomless Mud of the Swamp

Frequently Asked Questions

Definitions

• Can you "move" pieces from a land to that same land (e.g., with "Wrap in Wings of Sunlight")? If so, is it considered a move?
  Yes and yes, assuming the instructions don't restrict where you're allowed to move, the way that Push and Gather do. ("Wrap in Wings of Sunlight" doesn't.)

  Thematically, pieces moved to the land they're already in are moving around within that land.
  Tags: Move, Push, Gather, Wrap in Wings of Sunlight, 11 more...

Fear and Fear Cards

• How does Overseas Trade Seems Safer at Terror 2 ("Invaders do not Build Cities in Coastal Lands this turn") interact with effects that change what gets Built?
  Check if a City would be Built before any modifiers to how the Build action would work. Overseas Trade Seems Safer skips the Build entirely, and you resolve all "skip this Action" effects before any "modify this Action" effects.
  Tags: Skipping Actions, Action Modifiers, Overseas Trade Seems Safer, Fathomless Mud of the Swamp, 0 more...

Spirits and Innate Powers

• When using Spreading and Dreadful Mire, does it matter if you don't have a Sacred Site in the origin land when you resolve the first threshold (e.g., because you targeted via Entwined Power)?
  No, "the origin sacred site" is just land you picked as the origin back when targeting the Power. There isn't a second check for if that land is still your sacred site.

  This only matters if you still have Presence in that land (e.g., because you and the Spirit you're entwined with each had exactly 1 Presence there); if none of the Presence there is yours, there is no Presence you can move.
  Tags: Sacred Sites, Spreading and Dreadful Mire (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), Fathomless Mud of the Swamp, Entwined Power, 0 more...
• Can Powers target lands where it's impossible to resolve all of the effects (e.g., Spreading and Dreadful Mire targeting a land without Dahan)?
  Yes, Powers just need to be able to meet the conditions in the "Range" and "Target" boxes.

  In this Spreading and Dreadful Mire example, the only targeting restriction is having Invaders. While some thresholds of the Power will push Dahan if possible, Fathomless Mud of the Swamp isn't required to target a land with pushable Dahan.
  Tags: Targeting, Spreading and Dreadful Mire (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), Fathomless Mud of the Swamp
• If Devouring Teeth Lurks Underfoot gets a Range bonus to Death Approaches from Beneath the Surface and targets a land at least Range 2 from its Presence, does it have to Gather Presence into that land?
  No, "Gather" can only bring in pieces from adjacent lands.

  If it used "Move" — e.g., "Move 1 Presence to the target land" — then it could happen at any Range, like Fathomless Mud of the Swamp's Spreading and Dreadful Mire.
  Tags: Targeting, Gather, Range Boosts, Death Approaches Beneath the Surface (Devouring Teeth Lurk Underfoot), 3 more...
• Can Fathomless Mud of the Swamp target the origin land of Spreading and Dreadful Mire, or does that fail because moving Presence is required?
  Yes, you can target the origin land: “this is required” is a reminder that if it’s possible to Move a Presence, you must, not that you must choose a target where moving Presence is possible.

  (Also, while it's rarely relevant, you can technically Move a piece from a land to that same land, so long as the wording of the Power doesn't exclude doing so. Thematically, it’s moving within that land.)
  Tags: Targeting, Move, Presence, Spreading and Dreadful Mire (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), 1 more...
• Does Mud’s Offer No Firm Foundations special rule do anything useful against The Kingdom of France Level 2+?
  Yes, it still has two uses:

  • Since "Slave Labor" only triggers in lands that had 2+ Explorers before Building, the Explorers built via "No Firm Foundations" won't trigger that ability (though they would still be upgraded if the land already had 2+ Explorers).
  • At some points in the game, preventing new Cities from being built can be worth adding extra Towns. This is particularly true against Level 4+, when a City that causes "Triangle Trade" would add another Town anyway.
    Tags: Triggered Actions, Offer No Firm Foundations (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), Fathomless Mud of the Swamp, Kingdom of France, 0 more...
• When playing Fathomless Mud of the Swamp solo, can it gain 2 Power Cards with Exaltation of Tangled Growth?
  Yes. It can pay 1 Energy to gain a Power Card as “target Spirit,” and then can pay 2 Energy to gain a Power Card as “you.”
  Tags: Solo games, Exaltation of Tangled Growth (Fathomless Mud of the Swap), Fathomless Mud of the Swamp
• When the Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 2+ would Build a City in an Inland Fathomless Mud Sacred Site, how many Explorers get Built?
  One or two Explorers, your choice.

  If you choose to apply Offer No Firm Foundations first, it switches the Build from a City to an Explorer, so More Rural Than Urban doesn’t apply. On the other hand, if you choose to apply More Rural Than Urban first, it switches the Build from a City to two Towns, which Offer No Firm Foundations then switches to two Explorers.
  Tags: Build, Action Modifiers, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony), Offer No Firm Foundations (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), 1 more...
• When Fathomless Mud of the Swamp uses Spreading and Dreadful Mire, does the moved Presence have to be Mud’s Presence?
  Yes, when one of your Actions moves Presence, it means your Presence unless otherwise specified. (This is explicitly stated in later printings of Mud.)
  Tags: Presence, Spreading and Dreadful Mire (Fathomless Mud of the Swamp), Fathomless Mud of the Swamp