Durable

Frequently Asked Questions

Adversaries

• For Durable Invaders from Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 4, what exactly counts as a ‘Destroy all’ effect?
  Only “Destroy everything” or “Destroy all (piece) (in a land or lands)”, like “Destroy all Explorer/Town.” Effects limiting the destruction by something the piece has or did (e.g., “is damaged”, “was just moved”, “has Strife”) are not considered “destroy all” and are converted to Damage like all other destroy effects.

  This is most relevant for Ocean's Hungry Grasp, which has “After Invaders/Dahan are moved into the Ocean, Destroy them”; since this limits what gets destroy to “pieces that moved”, it's not a “destroy all”.
  Tags: Durable, Destroy, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony), Ocean In Play (Ocean's Hungry Grasp), 4 more...
• For Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 4, when "Destroy Town" effects turn to Damage, does that Damage have to respect restrictions on which Towns could have been destroyed?
  Yes. For instance, if you Push a Durable Town into a land affected by Melt Earth Into Quicksand that also has several other Towns, the resulting "2 Damage to Town only" may only be done to the Pushed Town, because that's the only one the Destroy could have affected.

  If you had "Destroy 2 Towns with (Strife)", the 4 Damage could only be done to 2 Towns with Strife. Etc. Basically, consider Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 4's text to read "2 Damage to those Towns" instead of just "2 Damage to Towns". (This wording will be updated in a future printing.)

  This does include "number of Towns", which is relevant for cases like Drought, which can't spread out its "6 Damage to Towns" among 6 different Towns then wipe them all out with "1 Damage to Town/City".
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Durable, Damage, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony), Melt Earth Into Quicksand, 1 more...
• When Towns are Durable (have extra Health) due to Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 4+: If Invaders blight a land during Ravage, does their Towns' extra Health wear off immediately?
  Yes, it drops to normal at the same time as the Blight is added / the Dahan are damaged. If any such Towns have already taken 2+ Damage, they will be destroyed immediately, before Dahan counterattack.
  Tags: Damage, Health, Durable, Ravage, 2 more...

Effect Rules

• If an Invader or Dahan is in a land where it has a Health bonus, takes Damage equal to its normal Health, and then gets moved into a land where it has no Health bonus, where is it actually destroyed? (E.g., for *Vengeance of the Dead*)
  The Invader/Dahan is destroyed in the destination land.

  There's no “in between” state where it loses its Health bonus for being out of the first land, but hasn’t yet arrived in the second land; it’s either in the first land and has a Health bonus or in the second land and doesn’t have a Health bonus.

  Moving a damaged piece into a land where it has a Health penalty works similarly.
  Tags: Health, Damage, Triggered Actions, Durable, 16 more...
• Are “Destroy” Powers “Damage dealing” Powers when used against Durable Invaders (e.g., for Flame's Fury)?
  Yes.

  For example, Asphyxiating Smoke deals 2 Damage to 1 Durable Town, so that can be increased to 3 Damage to 1 Durable Town by Flame’s Fury.
  Tags: Durable, Badlands, Damage, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony), 7 more...

Event Cards

• When War Touches the Island’s Shores does Damage in a land where Rising Heat of Stone and Sand has exactly 2 Presence, can you take advantage of the Health penalty from Blistering Heat to Destroy Invaders?
  Yes. There is no point at which Rising Heat's Presence has already been destroyed by the Blight, but Invaders haven't yet been checked for taking enough Damage to destroy them.

  This also applies to Far-Off Wars Touch the Island against Durable Invaders.
  Tags: Blight, Timing, Health, Durable, 5 more...

Scenarios

• In the Great River Scenario, if a Town with a Health bonus and 2 Damage taken moves off the island due to Relentless Migration Eastwards, is it Destroyed or does it remain on the Scenario Card?
  It remains on the Scenario Card. The Scenario checks if it successfully exited the island, not what state it would be in after the move if it ended up in a place where it didn’t have a Health bonus.
  Tags: Durable, The Great River, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony)

Spirits and Innate Powers

• When exactly do you have to pay for Finder's rule Responsibilities to the Dead when you move something?
  When a Dahan or Invader is pushed in a way that:

  • Decreases the Health of that Dahan or Invader so it has now taken lethal Damage (one of many ways Finder's action can destroy the Dahan/Invaders with its own action);
  • Directly causes something else to destroy that Dahan or Invader (Finder directly triggering their destruction by moving them).

  The first case can happen by causing a Health penalty (e.g., Pushing into a Sacred Site of Rising Heat of Stone and Sand) or removing a Health bonus (e.g., Pushing Dahan out of a land with Infinite Vitality or Gathering a Durable Town into a land with Blight against Habsburg Monarchy Livestock Colony Level 4).

  The second case most commonly occurs when teaming up with Ocean's Hungry Grasp to Push Invaders into the Ocean, but can also occur with Powers like Melt Earth Into Quicksand and Call to Guard.

  If something prevents the destruction, then Finder does not need to pay. If one triggered action triggers another triggered action that causes destruction (like moving pieces into another Spirit's Bargain of Coursing Paths, which then moves those pieces to their destruction), this does not count as "directly triggering" the destruction.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Triggered Actions, Durable, Health, Responsibilities to the Dead (Finder of Paths Unseen), 8 more...
• What happens if the Durable Towns of Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony) Level 4 are moved into the Ocean? Do they Drown? Does Ocean's Hungry Grasp gain Energy?
  Maybe. Drowning is a special form of Destroy, so it works just like a restricted Destroy effect ("2 Damage to those Towns only" per Town moved into the Ocean). It only grants Energy for Invaders successfully destroyed by that Destroy instruction.

  E.g., After you move a Town into an Ocean, the Town takes 2 Damage. If that’s enough to Destroy it (because the Ocean has Blight or the Town was already Damaged), then it Drowns normally. Otherwise, it follows the usual rules for Invaders/Dahan that fail to drown in the Ocean: you Push it to a non-Ocean land. If the land it goes to has Blight, it will immediately be Destroyed, but Ocean’s Hungry Grasp will not gain Energy.

  If 4 undamaged Towns are pushed into the Ocean with a single Action, that results in “8 Damage to those Towns only”, which you could distribute as you wished. If you used it to immediately Destroy 2 of the Towns, those Towns would be successfully Drowned and grant Energy.
  Tags: Destroy, Durable, Habsburg Monarchy (Livestock Colony), Ocean In Play (Ocean's Hungry Grasp), 2 more...
• What happens if 1 or more Invaders/Dahan moved into the Ocean aren't successfully destroyed by the Ocean in Play special rule?
  Push them to non-Ocean lands (as part of the same action). If the Push also fails somehow (perhaps due to Isolate), the pieces will be left in an illegal state and cleaned up to the nearest land after all triggered actions complete – human pieces cannot remain in the Ocean between "action trees" (a primary action and all other actions following from it). Regardless, Ocean's Hungry Grasp does not get Energy for them.

  This isn't formally specified on Ocean's panel because it's virtually never relevant with just the core game, and spelling it out would both take up a lot of space and needlessly increase complexity / confusion-potential for players who only have the base game. However, it becomes very relevant when playing vs. The Habsburg Monarchy Lvl 4+ (Jagged Earth), which blunts "Destroy Town" effects; see this FAQ if you need details.

  The fact that the Push is part of the triggered action means that it can trigger further actions – e.g., Melt Earth Into Quicksand or Call to Guard in the land Pushed to – which cleaning up illegally placed pieces does not do.

  As a very specific edge-case, if the Ocean is also a normal land due to Weave Together the Fabric of Place, humans can hang out there without trouble (until end of turn when the effect expires).
  Tags: Illegally placed pieces, Triggered Actions, Push, Durable, 5 more...