Promises of Protection

Frequently Asked Questions

Definitions

• When an effect reduces the Health of a piece (or it loses a bonus to Health), and it has already taken damage equal to its new health, is it destroyed immediately?
  Yes. (Branch & Claw rulebook p. 16)

  Invaders and Dahan have Health and take Damage. As soon as they have taken as much Damage as their Health, they are destroyed, whether that comes from taking more Damage or having their Health reduced.

  Unlike in some other games, doing Damage normally doesn't reduce the Health of the Invaders; there are two separate totals.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Health, Damage, Farmers Seek the Dahan for Aid, Years of Little Rain, 6 more...

Effect Rules

• If an Invader or Dahan is in a land where it has a Health bonus, takes Damage equal to its normal Health, and then gets moved into a land where it has no Health bonus, where is it actually destroyed? (E.g., for *Vengeance of the Dead*)
  The Invader/Dahan is destroyed in the destination land.

  There's no “in between” state where it loses its Health bonus for being out of the first land, but hasn’t yet arrived in the second land; it’s either in the first land and has a Health bonus or in the second land and doesn’t have a Health bonus.

  Moving a damaged piece into a land where it has a Health penalty works similarly.
  Tags: Health, Damage, Triggered Actions, Durable, 16 more...

General Play

• What's the timing of ongoing effects expiring?
  All "this turn" effects wear off at the same time. For now, assume all normal Time Passes activity (discard, lose elements, clear damage, ongoing effects expire) is simultaneous. Cards like Gift of Constancy (which modify discarding Powers) or Unquenchable Flames work because they explicitly specify a timing.

  Rules for non-standard things that happen during Time Passes (like Shroud of Silent Mist's Slow and Silent Death) can be done before or after effects wearing off unless otherwise specified.

  If it ever becomes clear that there really ought to be some sort of internal ordering to Time Passes, we'll call out that ordering in whatever expansion / FAQ it becomes relevant.
  Tags: Time Passes, Timing, Defend, Action Modifiers, 33 more...
• If one of Shroud of Silent Mists lands is targeted with Vengeance of the Dead and Invaders have their Health boosted by an Event, when damaged Invaders die at the end of the turn when the health boost wears off, do you get the benefit of Vengeance of the Dead?
  No.

  The effect of Vengeance of the Dead (extra Damage when Towns/Cities are Destroyed) and the Health boost wear off at the same time in Time Passes, so you don't get the extra Damage. (Health bonuses also wear off during Time Passes, so you need Shroud of Silent Mists to prevent the healing for the Invaders to actually die.)

  Similar comments apply to other effects that wear off at the end of the turn.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Time Passes, Weave Together the Fabric of Place, Vengeance of the Dead, Infinite Vitality, 3 more...

Spirits and Innate Powers

• Can Bringer of Dreams and Nightmares destroy already-damaged pieces by moving them into/out of lands that affect their Health? (Eg: moving a Dahan that has taken 2+ Damage out of a land where it's getting a Health bonus from Promises of Protection.)
  Yes. The Power itself isn't performing any damage or destroy effects, which is what To Dream a Thousand Deaths modifies; it's just changing where a piece is. From that, the game's core rules cause the piece to be destroyed.

  The destruction does still happen within the scope of the action (Power), so triggered actions like Vengeance of the Dead will trigger after the action (Power) is complete.
  Tags: Damage, Health, To Dream a Thousand Deaths (Bringer of Dreams and Nightmares), Infinite Vitality, 3 more...
• When exactly do you have to pay for Finder's rule Responsibilities to the Dead when you move something?
  When a Dahan or Invader is pushed in a way that:

  • Decreases the Health of that Dahan or Invader so it has now taken lethal Damage (one of many ways Finder's action can destroy the Dahan/Invaders with its own action);
  • Directly causes something else to destroy that Dahan or Invader (Finder directly triggering their destruction by moving them).

  The first case can happen by causing a Health penalty (e.g., Pushing into a Sacred Site of Rising Heat of Stone and Sand) or removing a Health bonus (e.g., Pushing Dahan out of a land with Infinite Vitality or Gathering a Durable Town into a land with Blight against Habsburg Monarchy Livestock Colony Level 4).

  The second case most commonly occurs when teaming up with Ocean's Hungry Grasp to Push Invaders into the Ocean, but can also occur with Powers like Melt Earth Into Quicksand and Call to Guard.

  If something prevents the destruction, then Finder does not need to pay. If one triggered action triggers another triggered action that causes destruction (like moving pieces into another Spirit's Bargain of Coursing Paths, which then moves those pieces to their destruction), this does not count as "directly triggering" the destruction.
  (Discussion elsewhere)  Tags: Triggered Actions, Durable, Health, Responsibilities to the Dead (Finder of Paths Unseen), 8 more...